What's Wrong With Paleo?
Monday, July 27, 2009 at 2:45PM 
When my vegan experiment ended, I focused on a new way of eating that seemed to be bullet proof. It was dubbed the paleo diet and it's tenants were simple; no grains, legumes, dairy, starchy veggies, or sugar of any kind. I quickly familiarized myself all things paleo and was proud to embrace the ideology of eating what I thought our ancestors ate.
The transition was simple. I started including a variety of meats in my diet with lots of "good fats", like olive oil. If we go back a few dozen posts we can see the paleo foods I ate on a daily basis. Grass fed burgers, pork with red and yellow bell peppers, and turmeric chicken with avocado were all staples. In my experience my time as a raw vegan wasn't that much different from my time as paleo dieter. Both are heavy in veggies, fruits and nuts with the exclusion of refined foods, meat of course being the point of contention.
As the months went by I noticed something strange. The meat and veggie meals I had started with slowly vanished making way for strange frankenfood concoctions made out of sugar free bakers chocolate and coconut flour. It wasn't long before every meal had to have several sweet elements, whether it was a pumpkin whey shake or a cinnamon and stevia sweetened egg pancake.
Similar to my vegan days, no matter how much I ate I was still ravenously hungry throughout the day. My day surrounded my meal times and waiting for them became agony. I kept busy by food logging and dreaming of "old foods" that I could make paleo. Besides my hunger I still had a wicked case of hypoglycemia (especially when eating sweet foods) and digestive abnormalities no matter how much fiber I consumed.
I didn't find solace until I stumbled upon Charles Washington's posts on Jimmy Moore's silly Livin La Vida Low Carb message board. While I was not a fan of Jimmy, Charles answered every question with enthusiasm. It was here where I first learned that non-caloric sweeteners (like stevia), which I though to be innocuous at the time, cause insulin secretion and can be responsible for hypoglycemia as well as excessive hunger. Eager to test out my new found knowledge I trashed my stevia, coconut flour, hybridized-organic-sugar-bomb Fuji apples and sure enough my hunger dissipated and my hypoglycemia vanished.
The paleo communities romanticized views of vegetables, fruits, nuts, coconut, and dark chocolate give conventional wisdom a run for its money. These foods are unlikely to be fit for human consumption and in the case of fiber and fructose should not be consumed by anyone - especially those with metabolic issues.
If you don't believe me check out the #primal channel on twitter. Paleo dieters gather to obessively post their meals and a lot of them look like this:
The paleo diet for myself, and clearly some others, does not control the addiction to sweet or blunt hunger. The concept of paleo eating should not be to emulate what Grok ate, but rather to emulate the metabolic state that frees us from chronic degeneration.
While the paleo diet is light years ahead of the SAD diet, metabolically challenged individuals might be served better by dropping the fiber and fructose. For the paleo dieter that is up for a challenge, I would suggest ditching the very taste for sweets. It's no easy task, but either was dropping grains, refined sugar, dairy, and legumes.
Please comment with your thoughts and experiences.
When I Was Paleo
Reader Comments (26)
There is nothing wrong with the paleo diet...it is only the application of the paleo diet that is flawed...as you found out.
Lex Rooker with his experience over 5 years of raw paleo meat--absolutely no carbs at all - fully understands that paleo for him means meat only. http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/journals/lex's-journal/
Those folks on on primal channel are clearly deluding themselves when they injest such "foods" as being primal. As you say, these foods only increase the desire for more non primal food.
Lex does not view eating as a recreational sport. It is nothing more than a necessary function of humanness...much like breathing or any other bodily function. Grok, I suspect, would not view chasing down an animal, killing it, carrying it back to camp, skinning it and eating it as recreation.
Such foods as primal? Way to generalize. In fact, Grok as you have it ate constantly if he was doing what you suggest due to the need to not only fuel a glucose hungry brain that was developing over millions of years to what it is today, but to accomplish hunting, gathering and what not. Nobody is deluding themselves. Just because YOU experienced the need to go carb crazy doesn't mean everyone does.
What the problem comes down to is people allowing 1 square inch of tongue deciding how they eat. Not every who has a piece of chocolate one day feels the need to down it consistently over the next week.
Stop these generalizations about how people eat.
Thanks for reading Dexter,
I couldn't agree with you more.
The public perception of the paleo diet is not how I or Lex eats. The paleo diet is molded by popular blogs like Mark's Daily Apple which espouse lots of vegetables, fruits, nuts and various other monkey foods. I have nothing against the all meat raw paleo diet.
Thanks for reading George,
I don't feel like I made to broad of a generalization. I have been a paleo dieter, I have friends who are paleo, and I follow the community closely. The obsessive nature of posters talking about their frankenfood creations lead me to my conclusion that for some the paleo diet can be a slippery frankenfood slope.
If I had known that the healthy bottle of paleo certified stevia was giving me hypoglycemic chills after I finished breakfast I would have thrown it out the window. In sharing my experience hopefully others can connect the dots in their own lives.
The brain can use up to 75% fatty acids and the rest can come from gluconeogenesis, there is no metabolic need for any carbohydrates. Not only can protein be used for glucose, but triglycerides can be broken down and two glycerol molecules can create one glucose molecule.
"On changing SLOWLY from a carbohydrate diet to an almost [even] COMPLETELY FAT diet, a person's body adapts to the use of far more acetoacetic acid than usual, and in this instance, ketosis normally does not occur. For instance, the Eskimos, who sometimes live almost entirely on a fat diet, do not develop ketosis. Undoubtedly, several factors enhance the rate of acetoacetic acid metabolism by the cells. Even the brain cells, which normally derive almost all of their energy from glucose, after a few weeks can derive 50 to 75 percent of their energy from fats." Reference: Textbook of Medical Physiology, page 869
You've got great REFERENCES. Love your blog. The hair post is my favorite -- very complete, concise, comprehensive and RIGHT ON TARGET. You know a lot for not being a GRRRLLL.
I had the same experience as you... I thought I could handle a little carbs and started adding some honey into my coconut oil/cream coffee every morning then before I knew I had HONEY LUST around every turn and ALL DAY LONG (and... subsequently quickly gained *WTF* 5 lbs!!!!)
Cut back on ALL carbs, regained some ketosis with bunches of protein... and everything went back on track again incl losing that awful 5lbs (which took an awful 3-4 wks).
I think the Frankenfood often comes with the newly introduced paleo eaters. Strict whole foods paleo is tough business when coming off boxed meals and junk foods.
The big problem with this post is the assumption that the diet being followed was paleo. It wasn't - it was just being called paleo.
Sugar free anything is not paleo. Most of the frakenfood concoctions posted as primal on Twitter aren't paleo, or primal. And yes, there is a difference (as someone mentioned Mark's Daily Apple, here you go: MDA Difference between paleo and primal.
Most people posting on Twitter aren't following primal or paleo. You can't condemn a diet or lifestyle based off of how people screw it up. Using frakenfood is specifically NOT a part of either diet! Stevia and sugar substitutes aren't from Grok's time no matter who you ask, and people who use them and call it primal or paleo are deluded.
There are plenty of us who follow either lifestyle (and they are two separate lifestyles) who do it correctly, and have no problems. Of course if you cheat or misinterpret the diet there will be problems.
Stay away from frakenfoods, and do it right, and either lifestyle works just fine.
I think the debate in the comments pretty much covers it - but one thing I would like to add is that we shouldn't dismiss all attempts to make the Paleo/Primal diet more interesting. Any attempt to create very sweet dishes is definately non-paleo/primal as your Stevia experience shows... but I do think that combining more inoccuous ingredients such as almond meal, coconut cream, egg and moderate amounts of fruit is appropriate. In the modern world you have to be pragmatic and define being paleo/primal to some extent in terms of the effects on the body of the meal rather than its precise composition.
Hmmm.. interesting points. I have to agree with Methusela. I'm not a big fan of artificial sweeteners and rarely buy them or eat them. But if it were to cross my lips every now and then, I don't think that is cause to give up or feel guilty. I enjoy baking treats on occasion for my daughter made from ground nuts, fat, spices, eggs, and small amounts of fruit or honey... It is nice to have these cakes or muffins available for guests too, without blowing my whole way of life. Our ancestors utilized what food they had, and though it may not be nutritionally essential, emotional and social health is just as important as dietary.
Looks like you have a great site here, I look forward to coming back! :)
Advance apologies for the length. :)
I have to agree with Methusela as well. You bring up a valid point that things like stevia are hardly a natural food, and dropping my taste for sweet things 95% of the time has been a good thing. That's one thing that really bugged me about low-carb after a while. Everybody just seemed to want so badly to eat what they gave up, that they'd eat these weird concoctions. Like making low-carb bread with 20 ingredients so they could have a couple of slices every day, instead of eating strict most days of the week and having a treat of a real chibatta sandwich for lunch on Saturday or something.
But, while I agree with that, I also don't really see what the problem is with creating variety in your foods by using products derived from paleo sources, like almond meal or coconut cream. I mean, by a strict definition, my meat and veggie curry with coconut cream and fish sauce doesn't qualify under strict "paleo", but how can you seriously fault it?
Also, the #primal tag isn't "a lot" like what you mentioned. I just clicked on it and by far the majority of "primal" food sharing is hunks of meat (steaks, chicken parts, sausages, burgers, etc), veggies in various ways, berries and nuts and combinations of the above. Your article makes it sound like a majority of the people who tag #primal are all hypocrites, when we are all just people trying to share and learn and strive towards an ideological goal. Which just reminds me how "diet" and be overly ideological like religion and politics. "I'm right, you're wrong and I really have to tell you how wrong you are", which is partly because we've found something that works great for us and we want it for other people as well, forgetting that changing most peoples minds is about slow positive exposure to ideas and not absolutely bashing their approach. I fall for this sometimes as well... in all three of the above areas. :)
And again, #primal isn't exactly like paleo, but it's a lifestyle trying to achieve as much as we can given various restraints and possibilities in our lives. Would I love to get my hands on all pasture raised meat? Yes! Can I afford it? No! Is it easily accessible in my area? No! We're all on various steps of that journey; mine went from "frozen foods" to vegetarian to "moderation" to low-carb to now 90% primal/paleo. And while there's extremely rigid primal and looser variations of it, the tag is just used to help people of like mind share ideas for food, activities and ways of living while striving for the ideal as best they can.
Absolutely agree with the value of dropping sweetness. I find enough sweetness in cabbage these days to make me wonder whether it's triggering an insulin response! So I have no psychological need for sweetness, since I do not feel deprived. And when I allow myself a couple of berries, one or two pack enough flavour to blow my mind, so I can control my intake and don't crave more later.
I don't see how coconut flour is a frankenfood though, as it is produced by traditional peoples. Grinding nuts and seeds, drying meats and herbs, etc, have all been part of the human diet for as long as we can tell. Indigenous Australians have a traditional paste they make out of macadamia nuts, for example. They also used to mix this paste with berries and other nuts, then bake it to make chips! I defy you to claim that my Primal Muffins are in any way less primal! :) And mine don't even include a sweetening agent... (and I don't always use ground cacao beans). After all, the recent theory is that the discovery of cooking is what made us 'human', is it not? Suddenly being able to detox poisonous berries, treat nuts, (make grains edible, fnurghughgs)... Chowing down on raw steak is great, but that doesn't make the art of cuisine a backwards step.
Meanwhile, this post bandies the terms 'paleo' and 'primal' as interchangeable, the difference between which has already been covered. Apart from the usual dietary fat contention, I've been wondering lately whether primal seems to be more accepting of the artificial sweeteners than paleo, etc. A recent post by Mark about chewing gum (and later in the comments, toothpaste) certainly surprised me with how blase some commenters were about the 'innocuousness' of a bit of xylitol, etc. Of course, there is no real right and wrong here, but I've felt far more sated, for far longer, since cutting out the chewy, and now transferring to a sweetener-free toothpaste. It's still not 'healthy', but it's good to know that it won't have any effect on my insulin before bed, however minimal.
While I'm trying to lose weight, I'm being very strict. I look forward to discovering what levels work best for me once I'm looking to maintain my weight - can I afford a few more berries, or will my hunger spiral out of control? The good thing about will-power is that I'm not afraid to experiment, as long as what I eat still falls under the primal umbrella. :)
Thanks for the post - great food for thought!
Thanks for reading John,
I couldn't agree more. It's akin to taking a cold shower, you just have to jump in. Is it so hard to restrict carbohydrates because they're so addictive?
Carbohydrates Are Addictive By Michale Eads
Sugar Is More Addictive Than Cocaine By Darwinstable
Thanks for reading Daraine,
The difference between the "The Paleo Diet" and a "Primal Diet" as told by Mark Sisson (I enjoy him and his blog) are saturated fat intake, some omega 3 and omega 6 fat discrepancies, a recommendation for supplementation by Mark, and a shifty stance on artificial sweeteners. They're not much different if you ask me.
The main difference like you said, is lifestyle attached to the the primal diet that Mark has created. Those who are coming in with health problems should know that it's possible that the level of tolerable carbohydrates for them is zero.
I'm sure you're a solid primal dieter Daraine. It you are free from cravings and hunger than you are obviously doing something right.
Thanks for reading Methuselah,
In my experience variety caused problems. I do not agree that fructose has any place in a healthy diet (carnivorous or not). It might have had its place in evolution, but the hybridized unrecognizable fruit in the grocery store is like a bag of candy. Fructose has been shown to raise triglycerides and cause oxidation - two things that are a slap in the face towards longevity.
I'm by no means suggesting that everyone should be consuming a carnivorous diet, but those with health issues should be exploring other options. I would suggest they stay away from fructose, and take in the smallest amount of carbohydrates possible.
I dig your blog, keep it up.
Thanks for reading Barbara,
If you are free from cravings and hunger you're on the right path. If you are not hitting your goals and/or have health problems my suggestion would be to reevaluate the amount of carbohydrates in the diet.
It was really difficult for me to give up carbohydrates, but it was completely necessary. There were times that I thought I could not be happy if I didn't eat my steel cut oats in the morning with Udo's oil. After a year on the all carnivorous diet I've found that in no way does happiness come from food. I find happiness in my friends, family, work, pemmican making, not having to take medications or supplements anymore and displaying acts of altruism towards others. Oh man, look what I'm saying now, I'll get off my soapbox.
Thanks Barbara.
Thanks for reading Arlo,
I feel that variety is one of the problems. In my limited experience, a variety of food always lead to problems. Variety in the diet for one reason or another leads to a "treat" and "reward" mentality. The very lack of variety in my diet is what enabled me to ditch my thyroid meds, keep my hair, and regain my sanity. A shift of paradigm is possible to think of food as a healing tool and not so much a social outlet. Acculturation in this regard, is a large factor.
I have no problems with your coconut curry Arlo, my point was aimed at those who are fooling themselves turning a primal/paleo way of eating into a SAD diet.
I wish in no way to say that a zero carb diet is "the only way" and all other paths to health are wrong. I really dig the paleo/primal community and my favorite blogs are all based around this philosophy, but I think it's important for those with health issues, constant hunger, and a desire for sweets to take carbohydrate restriction more seriously.
Thanks for reading Jezwyn,
Reading your comments makes me wish I was a better writer, but here I go.
Again, I have no problems with your creativity in creating new cuisine. Hell, I love Top Chef. My suggestion would be to reevaluate the baked goods, coconut flour, and anything else suspicious if you were A.) having health issues and taking medication or B.) you still had some work to do on the Adonis body we all desire.
I'm right there with you about the chewing gum and toothpaste. I used to be a trident tropical twist fiend. I would buy the largest boxes from Costco and go through them in a week. The fact that Mark can recommend those kinds of things boggles the mind. The sweet gum is priming the body for food and releasing insulin - for no reason.
I appreciate your open mind, and I love reading your progress on your blog.
I'm all for what works for each individual. Paleo/primal is wonderful because it IS so adaptable.
I do think Arlo nailed it, though, that some folks have gotten a slightly wild-eyed evangelical thing going on about "diet" within the paleo/primal community.
My own diet falls in a grey area: I eat fat, meat, eggs, and a v. small amt of butter, cream, and yoghurt and a v. sm amt of veg. I eat no fruit, no nightshades or cucurbits, no grains/starches/sugar/tubers. I call myself Lacto-Paleo but others have insisted I'm Primal because of the dairy.
But I had someone bark at me on Twitter saying that I couldn't tag #primal because I didn't eat ENOUGH carbs.
The Bear who is a big influence on ZC called fat, meat, eggs, AND dairy "Carnivore" because all come from animal sources. But I can't claim that one because I might eat a carrot or some almonds once a week.
LOL, I think we need to stop trying to label and go back to basic principles.
When I first made the glad jump from low-carb to Paleo/primal/whatbloodyever my impression was one of SIMPLICITY, that part of the point of the lifestyle was to keep foods simple, more like Grok would have had them: eat almonds, not almond flour mixed with ten things and baked. But that's just me. When I eat meat, I eat it unseasoned and minimally cooked, ditto eggs. If I decide i want a carrot I eat it raw.
And that's the beauty of the lifestyle. Simple works best for me but someone else, using the same ingredients and within the same lifestyle, makes an elegant, complicated dish.
Healthy smiles all around. :D
-Blue
Thanks for reading Blue,
I agree. It was worth dropping salt and seasoning in order to get in touch with true hunger. Not having those things in the mix helped me understand when my body was in need of fuel. Great post.
Hey Danny
Recently I had someone message me on Facebook asking about eating all meat (they saw my link to your blog), and if that was a good dietary option.
I told them it was worth checking out and trying, but personally, I'm a "paleo" guy. I've read through a good deal of your blog, and I'm not convinced eliminating plant foods (virtually all carbohydrates) from my diet is a wise idea- for the simple reason that for millions of years...we did eat carbohydrates.
Never to a great amount, never anything weird, and in some cases a very, very minimal amount- but never the less it is macro nutrient our bodies recognize. There may not be any such thing as an "essential" macro nutrient- but that's based on our collective and limited understanding of nutrition and how our bodies work.
I'm sure you would agree, NO ONE, at this point in time fully understands nutrition, no one.
That said, I think the fact that you've gained nearly 15 pounds of fat in 1 year of eating a purely carnivorous diet is a testament to something being downright "off" with your dietary habits.
That said, keep up the excellent blog, I'll keep checking in!
-Anthony
Derr....should have read over the comment haha.
*"essential" carbohydrate*
Would also like to add for clarification...
How can you "logicize" away millions of years of evolution?
No matter how insignificant carbohydrates were, they were present in our diets. No matter how compelling the "science", I just don't see how you can validate eliminating foods- and an entire macro nutrient- that have been a part of our natural food matrix for...millions of years.
On a fundamental level, it just doesn't make sense, and again, I think your significant rise in body fat is a sign that something is wrong.
Thanks for the comments Anthony,
Here's the thing, whether carbohydrates were part of our diets or not (I think their role was very limited in true paleolithic times), is a non-sequitur.
The Kitavans, The Okinawans - their “healthy high carb diets” are irrelevant when you have 20+ years of the SAD diet under your belt. I grew up eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch three times a day. Extensive metabolic damage has been done. All carbohydrates (even salad) turn into glucose and cause the body to secrete insulin. For a damaged metabolism, even innocuous vegetables can cause an over-secretion of insulin.
For my first year on the carnivorous diet I GORGED on meat and fat (especially fat) and gained ~15lbs. I would say that, if anything this shows how difficult it is to gain weight on a zero-carb diet. If I was consuming fruit and sweet potato, my guess is I would have gained a lot more.
I'm currently writing an addendum to my article, "Things I’ve Learned After A Year On The All Carnivorous Diet". A short preview is that I’ve effortlessly dropped ~10lbs by changing up my meal timing. I moved my meals to night time, got in touch with true hunger and the weight started to come off. Sorry, but my weight gain doesn't prove anything about the veracity of a zero-carb diet. Stefansson lists hundreds of fur-traders, Cree and Plains Native Americans, and explorers who ate such a diet and none of them were in ill health.
The proof is in the pudding. I dropped my thyroid meds, my hair stays in my head, I don’t have anxiety attacks, and I can sleep through the night. I'm up for new ideas, but so far this is working.
Hmm, too shay! (or, however you spell that phrase lol).
Thanks for the response.
-Anthony
Danny,
Just love the info I get from your blog and the comments, always good discussion in the comments. I just came off a 90 day All Meat test run. It went swimmingly. Still waiting on some blood work numbers (Thurs?) as I had blood work done for "before and after" comparisons. I am certainly in favor (and in understanding) of the zero carb nutrition as being proper for humans. I'll be consuming the occasional salad, or veggie when my wife prepares some, but animal source foods from here out otherwise. Certainly no sweeteners, veggie oils, grains, that stuff is looong gone from my intake.
Food is such a touchy subject with generations of mis-information, marketing, fantasy, reward, guilt, comfort and social stigmas all wrapped up in the mix. My own social standing (married) will have me eating from a limited (and sporadic) list of veggies. I suppose plenty of folks give into grains/sweets/fake fats from convenience/reward/emotions and my veggie intake is just that.
Thanks for commenting Tim,
I couldn't agree more. I've had quite a few heated debates at my workplace with others who found my way of eating highly disagreeable.
If you're inclined, join us on the ZIOH forum. It's growing rapidly, and there's lots of good info.
Don't forget to update us with your blood work!
Blood work back, c-Reactive Protein unchanged at .3mg/L (very very low), HbA1C at 5.2% (very very low) and low average blood glucose over the 90 days at 100mg/dL, all liver and kidney functions looking fine and dandy, too.
Lipids from a very accurate NMR Lipoprofile:
HDL at 93mg/dL (60+ desirable), wilth 17.9 umol/L large particle concentration (off the charts good, with over 9 umol/L considered optimal)
Trigycerides of 50mg/dL well below "normal" 150mg/dL
LDL is a calculated 185 (bogus) and a measured (accurate NMR) 135 mg/dL, with sub 300 nmol/L (below 600 is optimal, so excellent) of that being small dangerous particle type. What that shows is the LDL I have is big fluffy non-atherosclerotic type, nearly none detectable that is small/dangerous type. And what I've been reading lately, LDL that is being re-thought as benign, if not actually protective like HDL.
Total Cholesterol at 288
In summary, as fine of blood work as a fella could want. Little nuances here and there, with "high" total and "high" LDL taken out of context (my doc would want me on a statin drug and low fat diet, hah!) of my zero inflammation and excellent insulin and blood sugar control. It is hard to obsess on cholesterol numbers, when there is very little correlation to Conventional Wisdoms thoughts on cholesterol, and actual human health and longevity. Reading Good Calories, Bad Calories has cleared up alot for me.
I ate meat only, primarily free range local beef, local harvested deer and fish, and plenty of my own pemmican! I gained 6lbs, but my body fat stayed unchanged (in-accurate resistance scale type BF%), so maybe I gained muscle, but very easily could be extra fat, too. I ate ALOT of meat and fat during this, interested in your gain on all meat the first year, like to hear your summary of that, as vanity has me wanting to be lean and ripped. Alas, I don't work that hard at it!
Hey Tim,
My apologies for my late reply, I won't have internet access till next Tuesday. Forgive this post as I'm typing from my phone.
Your results are phenomenal!
While I gained my first year on ZC, I suspect I was over-eating much of the time. I'm planning a follow up post of things I've tweaked that have had me drop the weight effortlessly. I'm going to wait another month or so before I post anything to flush everything out.
Thank you so much for sharing your amazing results Tim!
I recently discovered your blog and I'm loving it!
What a great post. It was exactly what I needed to read after returning from a vacation at the cabin with our family. I have a real habit of eating very well, feeling great, and then... inevitably something comes up where I make the choice to add in a "treat" here or there (of course, I placate myself by using a bunch of 'technically' legal paleo foods - something like the Twitter post you mentioned). Then, inevitably, I find myself craving sweets and eating more and more in an effort to fill some craving. A tsp. of honey here, a few pieces of fruit, maybe extra nuts... It takes nothing for me to pack on 5lbs of fat in a couple of days (well, not "nothing" exactly, more like the sweets I just alluded to).
Clearly, my body, after years of carbohydrate abuse, can not handle such deviations. I have found the most difficult part of eating a primal style of diet is getting my mind wrapped around the idea that there are no "treats" with food. I waiver between the idea that food is fuel and that there is comfort in there somewhere too.
So, I am here now: 5 lbs heavier, inflammation flare-up, lethargic, depressed, foggy-minded, and craving sweets wildly. This all just from a bit of honey here and there, some almond flour muffins sweetened with banana, maple syrup sweetened homemade muffins... basically all paleo legal to some degree, but clearly not beneficial in my body.
I'd love to hear more about how you all separate food from comfort - on a more 'spiritual' level. My Slavic Grandma filled me with love one strudel at a time, how do we separate sweet and comfort on that level?
Thanks for commenting Tara,
Your experience outlines my post more eloquently than I ever could.
I suspect the "comfort" you speak of is no more than a simple addiction to the taste of sweet. To be free from cravings and constant nagging hunger I had to drop my carbohydrate level to zero. It was months before I was a new man, and a reformed sweet addict.
Hi, everyone.
Anthony, I read your comments to Danny. However, I'm thinking that maybe the 15 extra pounds of fat may be what his body is set to genetically as an approximate of his healthy weight. I may be wrong, but wasn't Danny quite thin before? Possibly "too thin" for his height and sex? (I realize that's all relative.)